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Shellshock
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Don't understand, who cares about franchise relevance? Perfect Dark was as dead as they come, should they not have greenlit that project?

I'd kill for Banjo 3 but that IP tanked with nuts and bolts. Doesn't mean they shouldn't give it another try.

Judging by what we got with PT, there's still life in Silent Hill. The real concern is whether Bloober has what it takes to realize that potential 🤷‍♂️

Add Fable, Killer Instinct and Battletoads to that list of dead irrelevant IP coming back or have comeback.
Blackleg-sanji1
  • #13,202
I mean there is no way a game like Forspoken doesn't bomb on Xbox after it's 2 year exclusivity runs out. The JRPG genre is gonna have a tough battle growing on Xbox when the biggest games don't even come to the system for years.

Probably because they have like 8 studios working on one franchise and the other 2 biggest parts of the company are PC and mobile focused.

The console focused part of Activision has barely any variety. They bought a struggling publisher because of massive workplace toxicity problems, I ain't gonna appreciate that.

That's lost on some people and no I'm not about to put 100% of faith in Microsoft to be like get off cod go make crash and spyro again…people been crying about banjo for a decade plus. It's a wait and see and it's gonna take way longer than this generation for it to change. That's a large ass company(companies) it's gonna take a WHILE
  • #13,203
I feel like I've been reading about Silent Hill for 5 years lol

Also let's not act like Silent Hill is suddenly super relevant. There are reasons why the franchise never continued at some point.


At least Sony now get to show it finally at their show and prove their many insiders right ;), and Bloober will now become godtier devs ;p
christocolus
  • #13,204
At least Sony now get to show it finally at their show and prove their many insiders right ;), and Bloober will now become godtier devs ;p
lol
Klobrille
  • #13,205
Don't understand, who cares about franchise relevance? Perfect Dark series was as dead as they come, should they not have greenlit that project?

I'd kill for Banjo 3 but that IP tanked with nuts and bolts. Doesn't mean they shouldn't give it another try.

Judging by what we got with PT, there's still life in Silent Hill. The real concern is whether Bloober has what it takes to realize that potential 🤷‍♂️

I'm all-in for resurrecting old IP, relevant or not (hell, I publicly asked for a Mech Assault reboot). But I've been reading about Silent Hill for what feels like an eternity now. It gets boring. Anyway. I do realize it's a very hardcore-bubble focused game and as such creates interest … here.
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Porcine prophet
  • #13,206
I mean there is no way a game like Forspoken doesn't bomb on Xbox after it's 2 year exclusivity runs out. The JRPG genre is gonna have a tough battle growing on Xbox when the biggest games don't even come to the system for years.

true, length of exclusivity is a variable, as well as how known the IP is, and how good it is. Forespoken is one I think would/will fail cause of how long exclusivity is, and new the IP is and how poorly its been showing.
  • #13,207
Thinking about the rest of the year, it's possible the ABK deal closes by the end of the year since they said fiscal 2023. There could be a massive Gamepass drop like we saw with Bethesda.

very possible.
ez123
  • #13,208
Viva Pinata was never relevant and still should be revived.
Blackleg-sanji1
  • #13,209
Nobody cares about blue dragon but me and I still want that revived
TiagoCosta
  • #13,211
MS should answer by reviving the IP everyone wants back, Lost Odyssey.
Blackleg-sanji1
  • #13,212
Partner with sega and remake skies of arcadia day 1 gamepass
Dougieflesh
  • #13,213
I miss Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey
Garcia el Gringo
  • #13,214
Nobody cares about blue dragon but me and I still want that revived
Going by this week's Microsoft Rewards on Xbox poll, we're a small percentage, but us Blue Dragon fans exist!

I'm watching the most recent DF Retro Play, playing the demo disc from the Xbox Official magazine March 2002 issue, and John Linneman is reemphasizing how significant the Japanese support was on the original Xbox, and he's not talking predominantly JRPGs.

Brrandon
  • #13,215
Partner with any Japanese company for any permanent exclusive
TiagoCosta
  • #13,216
Some people sure love to ignore that, but both Xbox OG and Xbox 360 had a lot of JP exclusive support and many people loved them for it.
litebrite
  • #13,217
Xbox should partner again with Platinum and revive Scalebound and reboot Phantom Dust.
Blackleg-sanji1
  • #13,218
Y'all ain't seeing the science. Revive blue dragon first and that'll be like Xbox reviving the SHADOW of its former self the self that had great Japanese support. Blue dragon…is all about using your shadow for power…

Triple entendre don't even ask me how

vixolus
  • #13,219
Nothing sounds more unappealing than "Phantom Dust". I'm sorry. Let it go.
TiagoCosta
  • #13,220
Nothing sounds more unappealing than "Phantom Dust". I'm sorry. Let it go.

Have to agree, while I'd have a hard time being against anything jp, PD... would be a GaaS game that I would have zero interest in.

Much better to meet what people are missing on xbox, stuff like Lost Odyssey.

litebrite
  • #13,221
Nothing sounds more unappealing than "Phantom Dust". I'm sorry. Let it go.
The game model was ahead of its time and would work perfectly in today's GaaS model and Game Pass.
Granjinha
  • #13,222
I mean everything at e3 is "fake souped up gameplay" most hardcore understands that. We know it's the most polished thing they have at the time. It's been happening forever pointing it out now does nothing. Fact is they need to show some gameplay

Yeah man i agree with you lol its why the argument about polished demos doesnt really make any sense
Firenoh
  • #13,223
Nobody cares about blue dragon but me and I still want that revived
How about just ports of the last two games to modern systems?
vixolus
  • #13,224
The game model was ahead of its time and would work perfectly in today's GaaS model and Game Pass.
... naw... just like how Bleeding Edge didn't pan out.

Seriously, the name "Phantom Dust" just sounds corny and lame. Like a Yu Gi Oh card. Hardest pass.

Granjinha
  • #13,225
The "no one but the hardcore cares about silent hill" thing kinda reminds me that people said that about Crash too which went to sell more than 10 million copies of the remaster trilogy alone lol
lunanto
  • #13,226
4chan said Toys for Bob is making Crash 5 and a new Spyro.

Believe 🛸

litebrite
  • #13,228
... naw... just like how Bleeding Edge didn't pan out.

Seriously, the name "Phantom Dust" just sounds corny and lame. Like a Yu Gi Oh card. Hardest pass.

I disagree but it's all in the execution.

Phantom Dust was also a JRPG, so a reboot would also have a strong single player RPG campaign.

DuWeißtSchonWer
  • #13,229
I'm all-in for resurrecting old IP, relevant or not (hell, I publicly asked for a Mech Assault reboot). But I've been reading about Silent Hill for what feels like an eternity now. It gets boring. Anyway. I do realize it's a very hardcore-bubble focused game and as such creates interest … here.
Yeah some times the Internet is like "If a new Silent Hill Game drops the world will stop spinning" But its actually just an nostalgic franchise in a hardcore genre.

A "good" Silent Hill needs to be arty, edgy and not designed for mass audience. You can do mainstream horror but then you lose the USP of Silent Hill.

TiagoCosta
  • #13,230
The "no one but the hardcore cares about silent hill" thing kinda reminds me that people said that about Crash too which went to sell more than 10 million copies of the remaster trilogy alone lol

Some people love to dismiss the importance of certain games for some reason... jp games overall have a lot of this effect, just be end up breaking new records all the time nowadays.
supercommodore
  • #13,231
The "no one but the hardcore cares about silent hill" thing kinda reminds me that people said that about Crash too which went to sell more than 10 million copies of the remaster trilogy alone lol

Total sales of all Silent Hill games ever (17 games): 8.4 million.

Crash sales on PS1:
Crash 1 - 6.8 million
Crash 2 - 7.6 million
Crash Warped - 7.1 million

The two series aren't in the same league at all.

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Sealord of Braavos
  • #13,232
Thinking about the rest of the year, it's possible the ABK deal closes by the end of the year since they said fiscal 2023. There could be a massive Gamepass drop like we saw with Bethesda.

Would be cool, but realistically that's a helluva lot of hopium. I'm mostly talking about the acquisition passing this year more than a bunch of Activision games dropping into Game Pass upon completion. This acquisition is going to be a tricky bastard to push through….and it will very likely take most of its allotted timeframe to get it done.
The realization of that will only happen once games -- both exclusives or Day One Game Pass launches -- start to hit regularly. And just like it takes time for Bethesda right now, that process will take many years for ABK.

Yup. These big moves Xbox has made, and is in the process of making….they are long term plays. Which I think is frustrating for many in the "I need it NOW" times we are living in.
Shellshock
  • #13,233
Xbox paying Bloober for a couple of timed exclusive games that were mediocre as hell to potentially PS getting timed exclusivity on the one game from Bloober that people will actually care about is very funny.
vixolus
  • #13,234
Xbox paying Bloober for a couple of timed exclusive games that were mediocre as hell to potentially PS getting timed exclusivity on the one game from Bloober that people will actually care about is very funny.
the virtuous cycle
lunanto
  • #13,235
4chan said Toys for Bob is making Crash 5 and a new Spyro.

Believe 🛸

My sauce told me they are going to make a new Banjo-Kazooie once they are done with both.
  • #13,236
Total sales of all Silent Hill games ever (17 games): 8.4 million.

Crash sales on PS1:
Crash 1 - 6.8 million
Crash 2 - 7.6 million
Crash Warped - 7.1 million

The two series aren't in the same league at all.


very interesting
Dougieflesh
  • #13,237
Why are we acting that series can't explode in sales?
Firenoh
  • #13,238
Why are we acting that series can't explode in sales?
Because Bloober Team is making it.
ez123
  • #13,239
Viva Pinata got a Platinum Family Hits release version so that at least 1k copies
Det
  • #13,240
Xbox paying Bloober for a couple of timed exclusive games that were mediocre as hell to potentially PS getting timed exclusivity on the one game from Bloober that people will actually care about is very funny.

Slightly optimistic there with the reactions in the SH thread, lol.
Det
  • #13,242
I hope the Gears Collection does come out this year, never played the originals.
supercommodore
  • #13,243
Some people love to dismiss the importance of certain games for some reason

Asian games, like jrpgs and such.

everything on the list feels very samey as they are all western.


Zero self-awareness 😆
Porcine prophet
  • #13,245
Viva Pinata was never relevant and still should be revived.

yes! I need my game where I force breed animals to then slaughter them to sell their insides
Casa
  • #13,248
Another dead franchise that people often ask for and that was also associated with the original Xbox back in the day is Ninja Gaiden. In an era where FromSoft games are killing it, a super difficult and polished new Ninja Gaiden would do extremely well I think.
Shrennin
  • #13,249
I think a Gears collection featuring a "best of" multiplayer would be great. Take the best of every game, including the maps, and standardize it to one play style (Gears 3 should be the target).
coma
  • #13,250
I think a Gears collection featuring a "best of" multiplayer would be great.
Would be awesome.
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